Your Hormones, Your Thyroid, and Candida (feat. Dr. Michael Biamonte)

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[00:00:17] People with low B12, it's very common. Chronic low B12. People very often have candida, especially low iron because Candida absorbs huge amounts of iron from your body.

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[00:00:42] Are you ready? I'm having salad with a side of Friess. Hey friend. Welcome back to Salad with a side of fries. I'm Jenn Trepeck, your host and health coach here with you every week for wellness without the weirdness. And over the six years of this show, we have had [00:01:00] many episodes on gut health. And many episodes on hormones Today, we're gonna connect the dots between your hormones, your thyroid, and candida, which is a yeast or a fungus that lives on and in your body.

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[00:01:37] Initially designed for aerospace purposes as a practitioner for over 30 years. He's dedicated to improving the lives of his patients and helping them get back to living. He holds a doctorate of naturopathy and is a New York State certified clinical nutritionist. He's a professional member of the.

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[00:02:07] I'm honored to introduce him to all of you. Dr. Michael Beam Monte,

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[00:02:15] Jenn Trepeck - Host: Yeah, you're welcome. Welcome officially to Salad for the side of fries.

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[00:02:20] Jenn Trepeck - Host: Yes. So we'll start with your story and a bit more of your background and then go from there after we tell our members what they're getting this week.

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[00:03:34] Biam Monte, we have two articles, one called Dr. Biam Monte Candida Chronicles Overview, and the other is Microbiome and Hashimoto's. So. I just wanna say you wanna read these articles, so for these articles on the recipe plus the episode in full video, access to our community chat and the 24 7, ask Me Anything, go to a salad with a side of fries.com/membership.

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[00:04:30] Bia Monte. One called Dr. Biam Monte's Candida Chronicles Overview, and the other is Microbiome and Hashimoto's. Okay, Dr. Biam Monte, if I remember correctly, you're a musician. Yes. Who then went back to school to become a naturopath when your father was ill. Will you share that story and how your focus has evolved over the years to become, you know, what it is today?

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[00:05:20] And I was very curious. I said, I was asking them, you know, where does, where do vitamins fit in? Where back in those days, Lare from Mexico was just making a big boom and it was being discovered that it actually cured some people of cancer. So I was asking all these questions, they wanna talk to me, they just wanted to push me away.

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[00:05:54] Just an obsession after a while, because the more I learned, the more the potential I saw was there. [00:06:00] And the more I was surprised that nobody was really picking this up. At the time I first started studying, there were two functional medical doctors in all of New York City. There was Dr. Bob Atkins and there was Ronald Hoffman, and that was it.

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[00:06:33] I. So in order to find, it wasn't like you could ask, um, ai, the, you know, the right, the questions. I had to be in the library all day and I had to really learn how to research and how to find, find answers. And by the time I got out of, um, naturopathic school, I had developed somewhat of an expertise in interpretation of laboratory work, blood work.

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[00:07:16] Nowadays, a lot of the things I studied and was discovering that are now standard standard, but back then it was brand new. And I wanted to develop a computer. This is when computers, this was 1984, now 85, when PCs were just first coming out. So I wanted, my idea was to have a computer that I could input patient data and the computer would then do the whole analysis and print out a whole explanation of net wood narration and instructions for the person on what to take, how to take it, what to do, diet instructions.

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[00:08:09] He's already doing this, and you'll be really happy to talk to him because he's very enlightened on all this. And I look at the card is, the man's name was Robert Santoro Naturopath. It turned out he worked at Grum and Aerospace. He was an aerospace physiologist, and he already assembled a whole team of people that was putting this computer program together, including his son who was a PhD in computer programming.

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[00:08:49] And then we started talking about what he was doing. I didn't really know much about computer language, but he was explaining to me that what they were doing was assembling a model of the human body. [00:09:00] And they first took Harper's biochemistry and they took different books on like on physiology, and they put that in the computer as the base and they were using a FORTRAN language.

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[00:09:35] So I started working with him before I knew it, eight years had gone by and we had a working model of the whole human body. Now, the whole idea of this was NASA wanted this because they wanted to be able to check the astronauts when they were in the space station for long periods of time to watch their nitrogen balance, look for calcium loss and things like that.

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[00:10:14] And they said, keep it.

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[00:10:16] Dr. Biamonte: So we kept it and we turned it into a commercial program that doctors could access. So a doctor can send his, uh, patient's data in and we run it through the computer. We get a printout, we send it back to him, and the computer speaks only in physiology. It doesn't speak in the disease, let's say.

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[00:10:54] There was an odd thing as we noticed that there was a certain group of people who just had strange reactions to the vitamins that we put them on, [00:11:00] and when we further explored, we found these same people also had weird reactions when they took drugs of any claim. So I volunteered to find out what was going on.

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[00:11:12] Dr. Biamonte: No. Well, here's what we found out. And my, whenever I tell the story, my wife would tell you that she walked into this room and she saw me at a desk with a, a pile of folders higher than I was. And I was looking through all these folders to try to find common denominators, and what I found is they had some kind of imbalance in their intestinal tract.

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[00:11:47] So what was happening is when they were taking vitamins, the vitamins were interacting with the candida and it gave them crazy reactions 'cause that, that happens with candida. So I didn't really know what candida was. I knew very little about it. [00:12:00] So I started researching it and I found out what it was, you know, essentially that it was a, a fungal overgrowth in your intestines.

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[00:12:21] At that point, man, was I dumb? I was naive. The phone calls I got that my doctor says, there's no such thing as candida, or My doctor says everybody has candida. It was just ridiculous. So I sent them to Dr. Atkins and Dr. Hoffman and the, the phone calls came back and they said, well, this. Patients said this was much better.

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[00:13:06] It was called reverse engineering. I took the data and I hit the textbooks and I went back to find out what was the reason this was occurring. And the first thing I found out that was a major breakthrough that I, I cover in my book, the Candida Chronicles, is that candida is very mutative and it genetically mutates very easily, which most people don't pay attention to, even though the data exists in the literature.

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[00:13:48] So initially in my practice, when we were taking stool cultures from patients, we found that none of the patients who came to us, who knew about candida, who had been treating it had candida albicans. [00:14:00] They all had candida gal brata or candida tropic, which are mutated species, which immediately told me that they were being treated in a way that would allow the candida to mutate.

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[00:14:28] I just kept collecting. I just shut up and listened, and I just took notes. I got all the data I could from these people, and I then just reversed engineered each thing. Like people would come in and say, I'm taking all these probiotics and I keep taking these stool tests and I don't show up in the stool.

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[00:14:59] And [00:15:00] that's then where I found out there was two groups of vitamins. When you deal with candida, there's one group that makes the candida worse by physically feeding it and spreading it. And there's another group that will block the medications that you're taking, and that's generally most antioxidants.

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[00:15:31] Jenn Trepeck - Host: Yeah, no, I, I identify so much with how you went about this. 'cause I feel like my brain works the same way. You know, I'm like, okay, if I just followed the logic, right? I don't necessarily know everything about the pathology, but I can apply logic of what we do know. Of how the body works and things like that.

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[00:16:05] Dr. Biamonte: and this program was based on the original versions of ai. 'cause the program will think the more the person comes and the more they have their data put through the computer, the computer has a retest module where it actually looks over all of the, the testing they've had, all the supplements they've had, and it looks for what worked the best for them over the whole long period of time.

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[00:16:26] Jenn Trepeck - Host: Yeah. And so, like I said, at the risk of opening a can of worms, I'm really curious to hear how do you see AI playing into or advancing. Kind of what you started and what you've built

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[00:16:48] It's that simple. It can only be as good as what you teach it, so mm-hmm. Luckily, in our system, the, there are a lot enough restrictions there to keep it focused. It's, that's interesting. It's not gonna go wild into, you know, [00:17:00] tangents. So yeah, that's important because you need to keep the focus in, keep it consistent with what it's looking at and not allow too many other variables that don't have anything to do with what it's supposed to be looking at to look at.

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[00:17:29] Dr. Biamonte: Oh, totally. It's, it's say ridiculous. Say more. It's absolutely, I think I know who started this and he's a well-known doctor in the Midwest who has a clinic there a lot of people have have been to, and one of his things is that he will tell people that until you get rid of your mercury, you can never fully get rid of the candida.

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[00:18:06] Well, the problem with that is, is that candida reduces fecal iga and fecal iga e, so that means immediately when intestinal tract is exposed to mercury, it depresses your immune system. That blows the whole theory right there because it's suppressing the immune system like an antibiotic would essentially by antibiotic, would suppress your intestinal immune system by wiping out your friendly flora, which is part of your immune system.

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[00:18:45] Jenn Trepeck - Host: Right. Rather, it's preventing the protection against the candida. Right.

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[00:18:52] Okay.

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[00:19:08] Dr. Biamonte: Bad reactions. It's very common in people with candida and leaky gut, even with their own medications prescribed, they have crazy reactions and doctors keep.

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[00:19:34] Jenn Trepeck - Host: and bad reactions might look like What?

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[00:20:08] But there are some common symptoms that evolve when you develop candida. And usually the very first thing is you have a drop in energy. You start having cognitive problems, you start becoming tired. You don't know why, and you start walking into rooms and saying, why did I walk into this room? What was I doing here?

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[00:20:45] Inability to digest, let's say, very common. Then you could escalate up to rashes, skin rashes, eczema is very common. If you do a search for candida and eczema online, you'll come up with over 15 million documents. Then when it gets really bad, [00:21:00] you can start feeling arthritic because candida will cause inflammation generally through your body, particularly in your joints.

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[00:21:27] Without having a booming headache so that this person can't go in the supermarket and walk down the aisle where the cleaning solutions are, the oldest from the cleaning solutions will just drive them crazy. So that's where the person is now becoming very chemically sensitive. From that they can develop also allergies than ever had before.

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[00:22:00] Jenn Trepeck - Host: Yeah. It's so funny, as you're saying, so in the first part of that list where it's the, you know, walk in this room.

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[00:22:24] Dr. Biamonte: It is because would can candida when it's exposed to be complex vitamins in your gut.

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[00:22:45] People very often have candida, especially low iron. Because Candida absorbs huge amounts of iron from your body, and people with candida will be found to be anemic, but then when they take iron to try to resolve the problem, the candida gets worse and the problem gets worse. [00:23:00] And that's the unique thing about Candida.

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[00:23:13] Jenn Trepeck - Host: right? So this, I think this is the perfect, you know, transition into the Candida protocol that we wanna walk through.

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[00:25:19] Jenn Trepeck - Host: Yes, thank you. Yeah, so thinking about overgrowth of candida, and we talked about even just before, some of the things that can sort of create that mutation. The overgrowth of candida. Will you connect this also to our hormones? Right? So we're sort of understanding what's happening with candida. What's the connection then to our hormones?

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[00:26:03] And when you have dysbiosis, that doesn't go very well. So you end up having people with chronically low serotonin because of their gut being imbalanced. The body can't pull the serotonin out of the gut and bring it back into the blood. That's one issue. The other issue is hormones have a direct effect on candida, particularly estrogens and cortisol.

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[00:26:43] So hormones can regulate and modulate candida, and unfortunately candida tends to interfere with thyroid function. There's a few things that it does, but one of the most notable things I say. Is that the dysbiosis that you get from Candida is probably the underlying reason [00:27:00] for Hashimoto's. I think most of my colleagues would agree by now that all Hashimoto's is underlying dysbiosis or candida, and you're never gonna fix Hashimoto's on anyone unless you handle their gut.

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[00:27:28] And that's 'cause we didn't handle the underlying reason, which was the dysbiosis.

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[00:27:45] Dr. Biamonte: Mm-hmm.

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[00:27:56] Because as we know. You know, different [00:28:00] physicians have different philosophies or you know, things that they'll work with.

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[00:28:14] The blood test is looking for antibody response to see if your immune system is producing antibodies against candida, and your immune system could continue to produce antibodies against Candida for nine to 10 months after it was gone. So that makes it not that accurate in terms of present time, what's really happening.

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[00:28:50] A patient could do that at home in 10 minutes and we can know immediately what's happening with their candida at that time. Stool tests for candida can be very [00:29:00] difficult. Because candida doesn't grow in a very uniform manner in your intestines. Bacteria grow very uniform. They pretty much just cover everything nicely.

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[00:29:29] That may go on for a few feet and then you walk past that and it's gone, and then there's nothing again. And then you may come up to that again at another 20 feet or something. So the candida just doesn't grow in a manner that makes stool testing. Practical for it because you don't know if that stool made contact with that area where the candida was long enough to then come into the sample and then be duplicated when you try to culture it.

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[00:30:10] If the stool pH is above 7.2, 7.4, they good chance they have candida. 'cause the candida likes an alkaline intestinal tract. That's the first thing. There's the pH. Normally between six and 7.2 is a pH that stops candida because that acidity suppresses it. Okay. Next thing you wanna look for is friendly bacteria.

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[00:30:52] Then you wanna look at the fecal IGA or IgE if that immune response is suppressed. Probably have Candida [00:31:00] calprotectin is another item to look at in the stool. If that's very high, they most likely have candida. So when you're putting all these these things together. These items, and it also, they're short chain fatty acids.

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[00:31:28] But what's expected, I would say, then you're not gonna find it. It's difficult to find in the store.

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[00:31:52] Dr. Biamonte: The first thing we do is we put the person on a, a bowel cleanse that consists of diet [00:32:00] tenacious Earth and MSM. Some and other things, other types of fibers and and whatnot, and we also give them castor oil capsules that we have them freeze. The reason why we freeze them is castor oil will give you a purge if you take it, which is not what we want.

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[00:32:27] Jenn Trepeck - Host: So I was gonna ask about a biofilm buster. So you're using the castor oil for that

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[00:32:44] So that's the first thing we do, is we have them do this type of a program. We call it phase zero, and that removes the surface areas or the surface layers, the the big chunks. Then we go to phase one. So on phase one we have them rotate usually four different antifungals or [00:33:00] combinations of antifungals that will kill the candida systemically.

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[00:33:25] It would be fungal sepsis and you're, you're gonna die soon. So there's no way you're gonna be standing up at my office telling me you have systemic candida. When people say systemic candida, they mean the candida has gone from their colon into their lymph system and traveled through the lymph system, and now is invading different organs.

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[00:34:05] And that's, that's what's needed on the second phase. So when we've accomplished that, and then by the way, on that phase, we also use different biofilm busters that work deeper in the gut lining. Then the next phase would be the probiotic phase. Now, if the person's done these. Previous three steps correctly, the probiotics should stick.

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[00:34:43] And it's simple and it's done. And the combination of the fibers and the prebiotics give the probiotics what it needs to feed on so we can grow tear intestinal tract. Usually the first reaction they get to that is bloating and gas, and they're, oh my God, the candidas coming back. But that's not what's actually happening when your friendly [00:35:00] bacteria begins to grow and re inoculate your intestines.

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[00:35:22] And the other is a breath test. It's called the sucrose breath test. It's a breath test completely different than placebo or, or h pylori. It's a breath test. That's particularly for leaky gut because there are certain gases your intestinal tract will produce if you have leaky gut.

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[00:35:50] Repairing the, you know, candida overgrowth and potentially leaky gut and all those things to the rest of the imbalance and what we were experiencing. [00:36:00]

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[00:36:11] All of these other things will respond. And the thing that I learned the hard way is that nine outta 10 times when you restore the person's flora. You're gonna find they have exhausted adrenals and exhausted thyroid nine outta 10 times. That's the very next thing that's gonna happen. But before you can address that, you first have to assess their toxicity level because when you have candida, you cannot properly detoxify your phase two detoxification.

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[00:36:55] So the first thing we look for before we address their adrenals, which [00:37:00] could be suppressed by the elevated copper, as we look for toxic metals. If there are toxic metals there, then we, we handle the toxic metals, we chelate them out, and then we look for toxic chemicals. Now, why we do it in that order is because toxic metals prevent your body from being able to release toxic chemicals.

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[00:37:34] But keep one thing in mind. Hair tests tell you the tissue level of the toxic metals, urine tests tell you the ability of the person to excrete the metals. So you could get a huge excretion on your initial provoke, let's say provocation. But that may be all there is. You don't know that. That means they have tons of metals.

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[00:38:00] Jenn Trepeck - Host: eliminate. Yeah. Yeah. It's so interesting because I think, you know, our objective is not for everyone to run out panicking that you know that everybody has candida, but to really open everyone's eyes, I think this is such a great example of how interconnected the body is to help us understand that addressing things in isolation or hyper-focusing on one piece in isolation is really part of.

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[00:38:34] Dr. Biamonte: yeah. It's been a huge challenge in the medical field, whether they know it or not. Yeah. You go to an eye doctor and the eye doctor's able to look at the eye, but he can't touch this part of it. He's gonna send you to another guy who can touch this part, and then he can't touch the other part, so he has to send so it can become ridiculous.

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[00:39:11] Biocybernetics means the biological way of monitoring systems that are self-regulating. 'cause a cybernetic system is so a self reg, the body is self-regulating. Yes. It's a biological system that tries to be, anyway, it's for the most part, self-regulating. And we wanna correct it where it goes off the rails and put it back on the rails and then it, it'll do fine.

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[00:39:40] Dr. Biamonte: And here's where you run into problems because the longer someone's been imbalanced, the bodies through homeostasis starts to begin to think that's the way it's supposed to be. So sometimes when you put someone on a health program, when they're trying to straighten these things out, they've had for years, you're gonna meet resistance.

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[00:40:13] Patients are always saying, why doesn't this go faster? You know, I'm feeling better. I'm feeling better, but why is it taking so long? What's, 'cause your body is stubborn essentially.

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[00:40:38] You know Correct. Self-regulate and

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[00:40:54] Jenn Trepeck - Host: Yes. Awesome. Alright, it is time for a rapid fire off topic questions that I ask every [00:41:00] expert who joins us. You ready? Sure. Okay. What's the best thing you've done for your health this week? What's the naughtiest thing you've done related to your health this week? Or what's the salad and what's the fries of your week,

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[00:41:12] Probably the best thing is I developed a new liver cleanse product, which I've been trying on myself, which is working really well. Nice. Really well. And how, you know something, how you know a cleansing product is working well. Is usually when you take it and you feel sick from it or you develop bad breath or a body order or something, that's your body really detoxifying.

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[00:41:35] Jenn Trepeck - Host: But it sounds delicious.

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[00:41:38] Jenn Trepeck - Host: Right. Alright. If you were the founder of the Beam Monte Center for Clinical Nutrition, what would you do?

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[00:41:48] Jenn Trepeck - Host: Yeah. Favorite book on any topic other than your area of expertise?

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[00:41:54] Dr. Biamonte: Probably Dietetics. Dietetics is an amazing book. It's the only book I ever read that really explained how [00:42:00] the mind worked and the fact that so many people came out against it proved to me that it was real because it was gonna cost the psychiatric industry billions of dollars of people really read the book and understood it because there's no such thing as a Prozac deficiency.

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[00:42:18] Jenn Trepeck - Host: For sure. If you could cure one ailment, disease or sickness, what would it be?

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[00:42:33] Jenn Trepeck - Host: No.

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[00:42:54] Read, uh, many of her books. Holda Clark is H-U-L-D-A, Clark, [00:43:00] and her book, the Cure for All Cancers is just mind boggling because she has every single step in there about how cancer eventually occurs and how you can pull the string on it and get it to shut down.

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[00:43:17] Dr. Biamonte: Probably to knock out ignorance.

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[00:43:24] Dr. Biamonte: Ignorance. I

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[00:43:31] Dr. Biamonte: Well. It was Thomas Edison who said that the doctor of the future will not prescribe medicines. I'm gonna paraphrase them, but he will enlighten his patient as to nutrition and proper care for the body naturally.

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[00:44:00] And the food is to blame. Why are there different versions of cereals in Mexico? Kellogg has the same, it's the same box, right? But yet when you look at what they put in the cereal in the United States compared to Mexico or some other country, it blows your mind what we've allowed them to do. So I would have to say along that line.

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[00:44:31] Dr. Biamonte: Very simple. They can go to my main website, which is health truth.com. Or they can go to my two other websites, uh, the New York City Candida Doctor and the New York City Thyroid doctor, and you can find me at one of those three websites.

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[00:44:53] Dr. Biamonte: My pleasure. I enjoyed it.

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[00:45:48] Michael Bi Biam. Thank you again for being here. You are

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