Episode 307

When More is Not More (feat. Joe Hoye)

Published on: 18th June, 2025

Are you tired of eating less and moving more, only to see no real results? What if the key to lasting fat loss wasn’t harder work, but smarter strategy?

In this episode of Salad with a Side of Fries, host Jenn Trepeck welcomes Joe Hoye, a sought-after coach known for his bold, backwards approach to health. With a background in the medical field and a track record of helping women over 40 rebuild their metabolism and break free from diet culture, Joe shares how eating more, exercising less, and prioritizing recovery can completely transform your body—and your mindset.

This conversation is compelling for women in midlife who feel stuck in a cycle of restriction and frustration. Joe breaks down why fat loss (not weight loss), building muscle, and mindset matter more than the number on the scale. From simplifying nutrition and supplements to balancing workouts with rest and recovery, this episode is your permission slip to do things differently—and finally feel good doing it.

The Salad With a Side of Fries podcast is hosted by Jenn Trepeck, who discusses wellness and weight loss in real life, clearing up myths, misinformation, and bad science surrounding our nutrition knowledge and the food industry. Let’s dive into wellness and weight loss for real life, including drinking, eating out, and skipping the grocery store.

IN THIS EPISODE: 

  • (02:24) The focus of Diet Detox simplifies nutrition and fitness: eat more and exercise less
  • (06:30) Joe's journey began at 13, inspired by his mother, leading to a focus on helping women over 40
  • (16:31) Eat less, move more is not effective for health. Focus on fat loss, not weight loss
  • (20:12) Exercise without recovery is detrimental, discussion of 3 days/week resistance training and compound movements
  • (28:46) Nutrition choices that follow a healthy weight loss plan for fat loss. Calories, protein, and carbs 
  • (31:25) Joe talks about supplements and the most critical elements to focus on
  • (36:52) Stress management

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

  • Fat loss is about balance, not extremes—sustainable results come from eating enough, exercising smart, and prioritizing recovery over overtraining.
  • Muscle is the key to metabolism—building and maintaining muscle supports fat loss, boosts energy, and improves long-term health, especially for women over 40.
  • Nutrition and mindset drive transformation—focusing on protein, recovery, and identity shifts empowers women (especially moms) to create lasting change that ripples through families and communities.

QUOTES:        

(03:39) “We might not see the ideal results in the first few weeks, but over time we can get there.” Jenn Trepeck

(15:46) “When we change a mom's life, we change the lives, not just of an entire family, but of an entire community. - Jenn Trepeck

(16:33) “We have to understand that muscle is everything when it comes to our metabolism. And our metabolism is everything when it comes to weight loss.” - Joe Hoye

(30:30)  “If you're having trouble sleeping, the best thing that you can take for sleep is a complex carbohydrate before bed: oats, sweet potatoes, brown rice, something like that. Don't knock it before you try it. And then, tell me how well you slept, because I guarantee you it's better.” Joe Hoye

(31:11) “It's pairing everything together. It's thinking about things in terms of their purpose, and we are talking about whole, actual food.” - Jenn Trepeck

RESOURCES:

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Jenn’s Free Menu Plan

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GUEST RESOURCES:

$1 Diet Detox - Website

Joe Hoye - Instagram

Joe Hoye - Facebook

The Diet Rebellion - Podcast

Ep. 27: Jenn Trepeck - Breaking the Diet Cycle: Why It's Not What You Eat, But How You Eat

GUEST BIOGRAPHY:

Most coaches tell women to eat less and move more—Joe Hoye does the opposite. Through Diet Detox, he simplifies nutrition and fitness, helping women eat more, exercise less, and focus on what truly matters: breaking free from self-sabotage, shifting their identity, and achieving forever weight loss.

With a background in surgery and years of coaching experience, Joe has helped over 1,000 women ditch restrictive diets, rebuild their metabolisms, and reshape their lives. His bold, backwards approach proves that lasting change isn’t found in another diet—it’s found in a total mindset shift.

Named as one of the top 100 menopause influencers of 2024 and as the Host of Midlife Makeover summit, the largest online health summit for women 40+, Joe is an influential figure with a track record to back it up!

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About the Podcast

Salad With a Side of Fries Nutrition, Wellness & Weight Loss
Nutrition tips that actually work. Real-life healthy eating, balanced diet tools, and weight loss tips you can use today with coach Jenn Trepeck.*

If you have searched for nutrition tips, tried to keep a healthy lifestyle, or felt stuck following popular weight loss tips, this podcast is for you. Get straightforward wellness advice that works in real life, plus strategies for a balanced diet, sustainable healthy eating, and a smarter approach to fitness and nutrition. Is your diet making you hungrier, crankier, or less healthy? Tune in and find out.*

Free gift: Schedule a 15-minute curiosity call with Jenn to explore what is possible for you. https://asaladwithasideoffries.com/contact/

Welcome to Salad with a Side of Fries, where wellness meets real life. Award-winning host Jenn Trepeck, health and lifestyle coach and author of Uncomplicating Wellness, cuts through the noise with clear answers you can trust. Ranked in the top 1.5% of podcasts worldwide, the show won Ear Worthy’s Best Health Podcast in 2024 and 2025 and was nominated for Best Independent Podcast both years. Jenn also won Women Who Podcast’s Stellar Interview award in 2025 after being named one of Podcast Magazine’s 40 under 40 in 2022.

Jenn’s motto is “wellness without the weirdness.” With more than 17 years coaching after solving her own food struggles, she knows how confusing the industry can be. Each week you get the foundations of a balanced diet, sustainable healthy eating, metabolism basics, and long-term holistic health, plus straight talk on fad diets and supplements.

What you will get by listening:
✅How to eat and how to cheat, guilt-free
✅Nutrition tips that work in the real world
✅Weight loss tips that are effective, never restrictive
✅How to build a balanced plate at home, on the road, and eating out
✅Smart strategies for sustainable habits that include your favorite foods
✅Evidence-based insights on fitness and nutrition
✅Conversations about holistic health that go beyond food
✅Wellness advice you can use right away


About Jenn Trepeck:
Jenn is a health coach, speaker, and consultant who blends humor with practical science. She has helped thousands improve energy, metabolism, and confidence in their choices through one-on-one coaching, group programs, her book, and this podcast.

Connect with Jenn and the show:
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Website: https://asaladwithasideoffries.com/

If you are ready to trade guilt for freedom, confusion for clarity, and boring salads for fries on the side, press play. Health gets doable here.

*These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This podcast and its guests are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.

About your host

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Jennifer Trepeck

“My passion for nutrition and helping others stems from “kicking my food issues” with my own weight management saga.” ~ Jenn

I believe that the greatest accountability is paying it forward! That’s why I teach the nutrition education we are all supposed to know but no one ever taught us, along with the science behind food, fitness, and health.

After I graduated from the University of Michigan Ross School of Business, I founded Better Life Now LLC while working full-time in hedge funds. In 2019, I took my practice from side-hustle to full-time self-employment and launched my podcast, Salad With a Side of Fries. On the show, we offer science-based tips and tricks for how to achieve wellness and weight loss for real life – because who wants a life without fries or dessert?!

Topics we tackle on the podcast include debunking fad diets, food myths, misinformation in marketing, bad science, and general nutrition. I encourage guests whose expertise is different from my own focus on weight management to bring their unique, fact-based perspectives to talk about subjects they are educated in and passionate about.

Due to my decade-long experience of working with clients, I have gained insight into the health and food industry and the how-tos of building a business.

Some specific health and wellness topics I can speak to include debunking fad diets, exposing the BS we are fed by the food and diet industry, how the people around us can positively and negatively impact our health journey, and shifting mindsets in order to overcome inappropriate barometers of success to instead achieve happy, healthy, and meaningful change.

On the subject of business, I can help you by teaching my critical pieces every entrepreneur should know, how to make your side-hustle into your full-time job, ways to sustainably achieve success without burning out, contemporary networking, and how to prioritize wellness while pursuing your projects.

When I find some free time, I’m typically working out at Physique57, discovering hidden gem restaurants in NYC, or traveling to spend time with friends and family.

I’d love to have an in-depth conversation with you, whether it’s leveling up in business or debunking food myths!