Episode 216

Macrodosing as a Therapeutic Tool (feat. Dr. Randall Hansen)

Published on: 20th September, 2023

Are psychedelics the real deal when it comes to healing trauma? What if you think you don’t have trauma in your life? Tune in to learn about the healing benefits of psychedelics, as well as how to experience them in a safe environment. 

On today’s episode, Jenn talks with Dr. Randall Hansen, who is a promoter of healing  through the power of psychedelic medicines. Dr. Hansen discusses how he discovered the healing benefits of psychedelics and where we are as a country when it comes to FDA approval of using psychedelics as therapy. He educates on what trauma is and how psychedelics can help with uncovering and healing trauma, while also sharing stories from people who have been able to heal with macrodosing. Tune in to learn why psychedelics are a useful tool for healing, as well as what to look for if you are ready to give them a try.

The Salad With a Side of Fries podcast is hosted by Jenn Trepeck, discussing wellness and weight loss for real life, clearing up the myths, misinformation, bad science & marketing surrounding our nutrition knowledge and the food industry. Let’s dive into wellness and weight loss for real life, including drinking, eating out, and skipping the grocery store. 

IN THIS EPISODE:

●   [5:41] Dr. Randall Hansen tells us about his wellness and healing journey. 

●   [11:15] Where are we currently in terms of wider use and approval of psychedelic substances in the United States? 

●   [15:51] What qualifies as trauma?

●   [20:57] How does the body hold onto trauma even after we think we’re healed from it?

●   [24:30] Dr. Randall Hansen shares what we know so far about what psychedelics are doing in the body.

●   [35:35] What do we know about what's happening physiology that allows us to have the observer mode, or re-experience something without it being traumatizing? 

●   [40:30] What Dr. Randall recommends for trying psychedelics safely.

●   [45:53] What should you look for to know that you are utilizing someone safely for your psychedelic experience? 

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

●   Trauma is unprocessed emotions that we block out and try to run away from. It can be from an event that happened (abuse, accidents, etc.) but it's also the absence of things, such as a lack of feeling loved or having your emotions validated. 

●   Community is so crucial when you are trying psychedelics, being able to talk with others about what you are experiencing, find safety while using (a doctor or therapist), and to uncover what you saw or were told during the journey. 

●   Psychedelics can help you take a journey in a non triggering, non threatening way so that you can experience your trauma, identify it, and begin to heal from it. Some people only need one journey, while others will need to repeat. 

QUOTES: 

“Intellectually we might think we're fine or we've worked through it. The body working through it is a different thing.” - Jenn Trepeck

“Trauma’s not the event that happened to you, it's the unprocessed emotions you just bury.” - Dr. Randall Hansen

“According to announcements at MAPS (Psychedelics Science) Conference, they expect that MDMA...will be hopefully approved by the FDA for PTS therapy in 2024.” - Dr. Randall Hansen

“The thing about all these psychedelics is they allow you to discuss or see the trauma in a non threatening, non triggering way, almost like you're watching a movie on TV or something like that, like it's someone else's story, but it's your story.” - Dr. Randall Hansen

“First, we know that the psychedelics shut down our default mode network, which is our kind of our inner voice. It's always telling us, you know, how's my hair, always talking to us and driving is at least sometimes driving me crazy. And so it shuts that down. So all of a sudden there's a little more silence in your brain.” - Dr. Randall Hansen

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Dr. Randall Hansen has been an educator his entire life. He has been focused on transforming the lives of people for the past 20 years, with a special focus on life-balance, health, foods, and wellness. He discovered the healing power of psychedelic medicines about 3 years ago, and he has made it his mission since then to be a strong advocate for the intentional use of psychedelics for healing. He lives a joyous and gratitude-filled life with his amazing life partner/wife Jenny on a little forested hilltop overlooking a natural lake in the PNW.

His Life Goal: Become a superhero for good health, healing, love, well-being, and positivity.

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