Episode 188

How to Synchronize Your Head, Heart & Gut (feat. Kiki Athanas)

Published on: 8th March, 2023

The Salad With a Side of Fries podcast is hosted by Jenn Trepeck, discussing wellness and weight loss for real life, clearing up the myths, misinformation, bad science & marketing surrounding our nutrition knowledge and the food industry. Let’s dive into wellness and weight loss for real life, including drinking, eating out, and skipping the grocery store. 

Today Jenn is joined by intuitive eating coach Kiki Athanas. After struggling with unhealthy eating habits and orthorexia, Kiki was determined to heal her relationship with food. She learned about the head, heart, and gut connection, which led her to remove food restrictions altogether. She now teaches others how to get present with their eating, understand their hunger, and uncover what else in their life is out of balance, causing them to turn to food. She offers insightful information and tools you can start using immediately. Tune in to learn some great tips for calming your nervous system so you can appropriately choose and digest your food.

IN THIS EPISODE:

●   [4:54] Kiki walks us through how she started in the wellness world. 

●   [9:31] What is Core Identity, and what does it have to do with our food?

●   [13:35] What is coherence for your head, heart, and gut? 

●   [16:50] How does this fit into the logic brain? 

●   [21:19] How can we synchronize the head, heart, and gut?

●   [28:57] Where does the resistance to connect to ourselves come from?

●   [32:10] How Kiki helps people who might be overwhelmed with her advice. 

●   [35:54] How can people ensure they don’t take these new habits too far and go into an unhealthy space?

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

●   We use our thoughts and our actions to fix us; food is to care for the physical body when hungry. It's not meant to be the medicine for everything.  

●   Food is a pause, a break in life. Everything else is movement in life. Creating a sense of safety in your body; being present with your meal can lead to great weight management and health success. 

●   Change isn’t a process; it's a decision. You do have time to be present with your food; you just have to choose to make the time. Make the time to exist so you can eventually thrive.

QUOTES: 

“We’re using food or the restriction of food as a buffer to move through life. As a way to soften the discomfort or to avoid what's going on with life. Because when we are at balance, are not under or over-fed, we can truly feel our core identity. And if that is scary and uncomfortable, then we’re using food as a way to buffer through it.” - Kiki Athanas 

“Eating is in the moment; eating has nothing to do with what you ate before or what you are going to eat after. The only way to eat properly is to connect with the feeling in your stomach and your whole body right now, and so we need to start incorporating that present awareness in the now beyond just our meal times, but also in the day-to-day.” - Kiki Athanas 

“With all of the pieces, the breathing, the catching the thoughts, the catching the hunger and satiety, we’re inherently separating the time for food from everything else.” - Jenn Trepeck 

“Ultimately showing up worthy. It's never about perfection; it's always about connection. A mantra I use with my clients is I don't have to be perfect; I just have to be me. It's really about owning your wants and not feeling back about wanting what you want. Whether it be with food, work or relationships, anything!” - Kiki Athanas

RESOURCES:

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GUEST RESOURCES:

Kiki's Website

Kiki's Facebook Group

Kiki's Instagram

GUEST BIO:

Kiki helps smart women conquer emotional eating and practice healthy, balanced eating with consistency and ease - even in the face of life’s challenges.

She created The Gut Brain Integration method to help women take control of their cravings and hunger, so eating no longer feels like an internal battle & they are finally able to shed any excess fat they were holding onto.

In fact, she’s worked with hundreds of women to free themselves from non-stop thinking about food and turned them into naturally balanced women who are confident about their bodies!

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About the Podcast

Salad With a Side of Fries Nutrition, Wellness & Weight Loss
Nutrition tips that actually work. Real-life healthy eating, balanced diet tools, and weight loss tips you can use today with coach Jenn Trepeck.*

If you have searched for nutrition tips, tried to keep a healthy lifestyle, or felt stuck following popular weight loss tips, this podcast is for you. Get straightforward wellness advice that works in real life, plus strategies for a balanced diet, sustainable healthy eating, and a smarter approach to fitness and nutrition. Is your diet making you hungrier, crankier, or less healthy? Tune in and find out.*

Free gift: Schedule a 15-minute curiosity call with Jenn to explore what is possible for you. https://asaladwithasideoffries.com/contact/

Welcome to Salad with a Side of Fries, where wellness meets real life. Award-winning host Jenn Trepeck, health and lifestyle coach and author of Uncomplicating Wellness, cuts through the noise with clear answers you can trust. Ranked in the top 1.5% of podcasts worldwide, the show won Ear Worthy’s Best Health Podcast in 2024 and 2025 and was nominated for Best Independent Podcast both years. Jenn also won Women Who Podcast’s Stellar Interview award in 2025 after being named one of Podcast Magazine’s 40 under 40 in 2022.

Jenn’s motto is “wellness without the weirdness.” With more than 17 years coaching after solving her own food struggles, she knows how confusing the industry can be. Each week you get the foundations of a balanced diet, sustainable healthy eating, metabolism basics, and long-term holistic health, plus straight talk on fad diets and supplements.

What you will get by listening:
✅How to eat and how to cheat, guilt-free
✅Nutrition tips that work in the real world
✅Weight loss tips that are effective, never restrictive
✅How to build a balanced plate at home, on the road, and eating out
✅Smart strategies for sustainable habits that include your favorite foods
✅Evidence-based insights on fitness and nutrition
✅Conversations about holistic health that go beyond food
✅Wellness advice you can use right away


About Jenn Trepeck:
Jenn is a health coach, speaker, and consultant who blends humor with practical science. She has helped thousands improve energy, metabolism, and confidence in their choices through one-on-one coaching, group programs, her book, and this podcast.

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If you are ready to trade guilt for freedom, confusion for clarity, and boring salads for fries on the side, press play. Health gets doable here.

*These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This podcast and its guests are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.

About your host

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Jennifer Trepeck

“My passion for nutrition and helping others stems from “kicking my food issues” with my own weight management saga.” ~ Jenn

I believe that the greatest accountability is paying it forward! That’s why I teach the nutrition education we are all supposed to know but no one ever taught us, along with the science behind food, fitness, and health.

After I graduated from the University of Michigan Ross School of Business, I founded Better Life Now LLC while working full-time in hedge funds. In 2019, I took my practice from side-hustle to full-time self-employment and launched my podcast, Salad With a Side of Fries. On the show, we offer science-based tips and tricks for how to achieve wellness and weight loss for real life – because who wants a life without fries or dessert?!

Topics we tackle on the podcast include debunking fad diets, food myths, misinformation in marketing, bad science, and general nutrition. I encourage guests whose expertise is different from my own focus on weight management to bring their unique, fact-based perspectives to talk about subjects they are educated in and passionate about.

Due to my decade-long experience of working with clients, I have gained insight into the health and food industry and the how-tos of building a business.

Some specific health and wellness topics I can speak to include debunking fad diets, exposing the BS we are fed by the food and diet industry, how the people around us can positively and negatively impact our health journey, and shifting mindsets in order to overcome inappropriate barometers of success to instead achieve happy, healthy, and meaningful change.

On the subject of business, I can help you by teaching my critical pieces every entrepreneur should know, how to make your side-hustle into your full-time job, ways to sustainably achieve success without burning out, contemporary networking, and how to prioritize wellness while pursuing your projects.

When I find some free time, I’m typically working out at Physique57, discovering hidden gem restaurants in NYC, or traveling to spend time with friends and family.

I’d love to have an in-depth conversation with you, whether it’s leveling up in business or debunking food myths!