Episode 331

Emotional Vitality (feat. Jared St. Clair)

Published on: 3rd December, 2025

Feeling like an emotional mess lately? What if the secret to calming your anxiety and depression isn't in your head—it’s actually in your gut. This episode breaks down why your digestive system might be calling the shots on your mood, and the simple supplements for emotional vitality that actually work.

Jenn Trepeck is joined by natural health educator Jared St. Clair on Salad With a Side of Fries to get real about the brain-gut connection. They're dishing on everything from spore-based probiotics to why your gut microbiome might be eating all your serotonin before it reaches your brain. Plus, Jared shares which magnesium and omega-3s are worth your money, and why your self-talk matters more than you think. 

What You Will Learn in This Episode:

✅ Why gut health and mental health issues are connected and how fixing your leaky gut and microbiome first (before your brain) can dramatically reduce anxiety and depression—plus the specific spore-based probiotics that actually rebuild your gut long-term

✅ The five essential supplements everyone should consider: a great multivitamin, omega-3 fatty acids, magnesium bisglycinate, probiotics, and digestive enzymes—and why these support neurotransmitter production and brain-gut connection

✅ How ATP energy production in your brain affects mental clarity and mood, plus why creatine isn't just for athletes but is actually a "no-brainer" for preventing brain fog and supporting mental wellness

✅ The power of mindset work and your reticular activating system (RAS)—why what you tell yourself matters more than any supplement, and how to stop sabotaging your health with negative self-talk

The Salad With a Side of Fries podcast, hosted by Jenn Trepeck, explores real-life wellness and weight-loss topics, debunking myths, misinformation, and flawed science surrounding nutrition and the food industry. Let’s dive into wellness and weight loss for real life, including drinking, eating out, and skipping the grocery store.

TIMESTAMPS:  

00:00 Jared St. Clair introduces the gut health mental health connection and why he always starts in the gut when addressing anxiety and depression

04:59 Jared shares how early exposure to health concerns shaped his passion for natural wellness and supplements

09:58 The origin of Vitality Radio and how Jared transitioned from local radio to podcasting after 12 years, building a platform for health education and supplement formulation

13:33 What emotional vitality means and Jared's wife's journey from five medical diagnoses, including bipolar disorder and IBS, to finding hope through gut health transformation

20:09 The Vital Five supplements everyone should consider: a great multivitamin, omega-3 fatty acids, magnesium, probiotics, and digestive enzymes for filling nutritional gaps

23:11 Spore-based probiotics explained: why soil-based strains like Bacillus coagulans survive stomach acid, rebuild microbiome diversity, and create permanent change 

27:12 Healing leaky gut and the gut barrier with L-glutamine, marshmallow, slippery elm, and holy aloe vera juice to support neurotransmitter production

29:04 Why creatine is essential for brain health: supporting ATP energy production, preventing Alzheimer's, reducing brain fog, and helping with mental health issues

35:36 The power of mindset and the reticular activating system: how self-talk and subconscious beliefs matter more than any supplement you can take for achieving vitality

37:29 Placebo and nocebo effects explained: why believing a treatment will work (or won't) directly impacts outcomes, including medical procedures and supplement effectiveness

KEY TAKEAWAYS: 

💎 The vagus nerve carries more traffic from gut to brain than any other pathway in the body, which is why addressing gut dysbiosis and leaky gut must come before treating mental health issues—when your microbiome is out of balance, your neurotransmitters like serotonin and GABA can't reach your brain properly

💎 Magnesium bisglycinate is the single most important supplement if you can only take one, because nearly everyone is deficient due to depleted soil and high stress levels that burn through magnesium—it calms the central nervous system, reduces anxiety, and supports overall emotional vitality

💎 Traditional probiotics only provide temporary relief because they die at room temperature and in stomach acid, but spore-forming probiotics like Bacillus subtilis and Bacillus coagulans survive digestion, eliminate pathogens, and rebuild microbiome diversity for permanent change within 30 days

💎 Your self-talk and reticular activating system determine health outcomes more than any supplement—telling yourself "I am fat" or "I am bipolar" creates confirmation bias where your brain proves you right, so shifting from "I am" to "I have" language is critical for healing and creating change

ABOUT THE GUEST: 

Jared St. Clair is a natural health educator, supplement formulator, and host of Vitality Radio. With over 30 years of experience, he has dedicated his career to educating people on natural wellness, helping them achieve vitality through lifestyle changes and the use of supplements. As the owner of Vitality Nutrition, a family business founded in 1977, Jared continues to lead in providing personalized health solutions. His podcast, Vitality Radio, further extends his reach in promoting natural healing and wellness education to a broader audience.

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QUOTES: 

17:45 "None of us have a Xanax deficiency." - Jenn Trepeck

18:28 "We can't supplement our weight out of our daily choices, right?" - Jenn Trepeck

22:50 "People can be making serotonin, and then the gut bugs are eating it, and it's never even getting to the brain." - Jenn Trepeck

26:49 "When we look at things like leaky gut, IBS, Crohn's or ulcerative colitis or mental health, because that's the first place I go when somebody says, I'm dealing with anxiety or depression or OCD, I always start gut first, not brain first, because that's just where it starts." - Jared St. Clair

28:54 "The brain is mostly fat. These tools are so important and helpful when it comes to our mental and emotional state?" - Jenn Trepeck

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About the Podcast

Salad With a Side of Fries Nutrition, Wellness & Weight Loss
Nutrition tips that actually work. Real-life healthy eating, balanced diet tools, and weight loss tips you can use today with coach Jenn Trepeck.*

If you have searched for nutrition tips, tried to keep a healthy lifestyle, or felt stuck following popular weight loss tips, this podcast is for you. Get straightforward wellness advice that works in real life, plus strategies for a balanced diet, sustainable healthy eating, and a smarter approach to fitness and nutrition. Is your diet making you hungrier, crankier, or less healthy? Tune in and find out.*

Free gift: Schedule a 15-minute curiosity call with Jenn to explore what is possible for you. https://asaladwithasideoffries.com/contact/

Welcome to Salad with a Side of Fries, where wellness meets real life. Award-winning host Jenn Trepeck, health and lifestyle coach and author of Uncomplicating Wellness, cuts through the noise with clear answers you can trust. Ranked in the top 1.5% of podcasts worldwide, the show won Ear Worthy’s Best Health Podcast in 2024 and 2025 and was nominated for Best Independent Podcast both years. Jenn also won Women Who Podcast’s Stellar Interview award in 2025 after being named one of Podcast Magazine’s 40 under 40 in 2022.

Jenn’s motto is “wellness without the weirdness.” With more than 17 years coaching after solving her own food struggles, she knows how confusing the industry can be. Each week you get the foundations of a balanced diet, sustainable healthy eating, metabolism basics, and long-term holistic health, plus straight talk on fad diets and supplements.

What you will get by listening:
✅How to eat and how to cheat, guilt-free
✅Nutrition tips that work in the real world
✅Weight loss tips that are effective, never restrictive
✅How to build a balanced plate at home, on the road, and eating out
✅Smart strategies for sustainable habits that include your favorite foods
✅Evidence-based insights on fitness and nutrition
✅Conversations about holistic health that go beyond food
✅Wellness advice you can use right away


About Jenn Trepeck:
Jenn is a health coach, speaker, and consultant who blends humor with practical science. She has helped thousands improve energy, metabolism, and confidence in their choices through one-on-one coaching, group programs, her book, and this podcast.

Connect with Jenn and the show:
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Website: https://asaladwithasideoffries.com/

If you are ready to trade guilt for freedom, confusion for clarity, and boring salads for fries on the side, press play. Health gets doable here.

*These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This podcast and its guests are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.

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Jennifer Trepeck

“My passion for nutrition and helping others stems from “kicking my food issues” with my own weight management saga.” ~ Jenn

I believe that the greatest accountability is paying it forward! That’s why I teach the nutrition education we are all supposed to know but no one ever taught us, along with the science behind food, fitness, and health.

After I graduated from the University of Michigan Ross School of Business, I founded Better Life Now LLC while working full-time in hedge funds. In 2019, I took my practice from side-hustle to full-time self-employment and launched my podcast, Salad With a Side of Fries. On the show, we offer science-based tips and tricks for how to achieve wellness and weight loss for real life – because who wants a life without fries or dessert?!

Topics we tackle on the podcast include debunking fad diets, food myths, misinformation in marketing, bad science, and general nutrition. I encourage guests whose expertise is different from my own focus on weight management to bring their unique, fact-based perspectives to talk about subjects they are educated in and passionate about.

Due to my decade-long experience of working with clients, I have gained insight into the health and food industry and the how-tos of building a business.

Some specific health and wellness topics I can speak to include debunking fad diets, exposing the BS we are fed by the food and diet industry, how the people around us can positively and negatively impact our health journey, and shifting mindsets in order to overcome inappropriate barometers of success to instead achieve happy, healthy, and meaningful change.

On the subject of business, I can help you by teaching my critical pieces every entrepreneur should know, how to make your side-hustle into your full-time job, ways to sustainably achieve success without burning out, contemporary networking, and how to prioritize wellness while pursuing your projects.

When I find some free time, I’m typically working out at Physique57, discovering hidden gem restaurants in NYC, or traveling to spend time with friends and family.

I’d love to have an in-depth conversation with you, whether it’s leveling up in business or debunking food myths!