Episode 269

Caveman Biology in a Very Modern World (feat. Dr. Kathy Campbell)

Published on: 25th September, 2024

It can feel so frustrating trying to determine what will actually work when it comes to health and weight loss. Maybe you feel like you’ve tried everything, or you’ve been dieting for more than 10 years and still aren’t seeing the results you want. Tune in to understand why. 

This week, Jenn is joined by community pharmacist Dr. Kathy Campbell to discuss how our bodies are (or aren’t) adapting in this modern world. Dr. Campbell shares why people are experiencing metabolic dysfunction and what we can do to battle it, given that she calls obesity “modern-day famine.” She talks about what factors in the world are impacting our health, and what is going on at a chemical level that we may not even be aware of. Dr. Kathy Campbell shares how to identify our own health culture, and determine what tweaks we need to make to have the biggest impacts. Oh! And Jenn also asks about GLP-1 drugs like Ozempic and Wegovy! Tune in to learn more.

The Salad With a Side of Fries podcast is hosted by Jenn Trepeck, discussing wellness and weight loss for real life, clearing up the myths, misinformation, bad science & marketing surrounding our nutrition knowledge and the food industry. Let’s dive into wellness and weight loss for real life, including drinking, eating out, and skipping the grocery store. 

IN THIS EPISODE: 

  • [3:55] Jenn shares what members are getting this week.
  • [5:53] Dr. Kathy Campbell shares her personal experience with weight management.
  • [8:11] What does Dr. Campbell do as a community pharmacist?
  • [12:16] How does metabolic dysfunction work in our bodies?
  • [14:37] What are some of the consequences or expressions of our primitive caveman biology living in conflict with our modern world?
  • [20:02] Dr. Campbell talks about how we are being failed and how that impacts our health. 
  • [23:25] How can you start to identify your own health culture and the tweaks you can make for big impacts?
  • [27:55] What does culture mean to Dr. Campbell? 
  • [31:16] What does Dr. Campbell think about GLP-1’s?
  • [37:08] Rapid fire, off topic questions for Dr. Kathy Campbell. 

KEY TAKEAWAYS: 

  • What the body is doing is a hundred percent of the time appropriate to the environment with which it is surviving. It’s not just the macro environment like the air around us, it’s also the internal environment of the body, what’s going on within the cellular level.
  • You are the expert of your own body. Use yourself as a type of science experiment, try things and see if they work for you. If they don’t try something else. 
  • There is a time and a place for medicine, but if you are taking pharmaceuticals and are not changing your habits and your lifestyle, you are doing your body a disservice. GLP-1’s can be a tool in your tool box, but you also have to put in the work to fix your gut and focus on your overall health. 

QUOTES: 

  • [9:41] “The problem isn’t our genetics. The problem is we’ve had a catastrophic environmental change for our human self and we have not evolved. I don’t know that we will evolve to actually survive the current environment.” - Dr. Kathy Campbell
  • “When people come to me, most are over-fed and under-nourished. That ends up in a place of metabolic dysfunction, insulin resistance, we observe it as obesity.” - Jenn Trepeck
  • [12:54] “The critical chemistries I see in the body are nutrients, oxygen, sunlight, water, love and connection. When I speak to my peers, I call it pharmacology, food pharmacology, and the hardest one is stress pharmacology.” - Dr. Kathy Campbell
  • [24:32] “You’re the only biochemical you, you’re a unique organism living in a unique life with a unique history. You have to create around you a team, and I call it a partner’s in health team. You need somebody that is a coach, you need a farmer, you need a doctor, you need a physical therapist, you need a massage therapist, if you don’t have a good hairdresser on there, you’re missing out. They’re all part of almost a mirror, because often we’re the last ones to know when the function slips, but that’s an honest journeying through our health.” - Dr. Kathy Campbell

RESOURCES:

Train Like an Olympian Nutrition Nugget

Olympics vs. Everyday Athletes Podcast

Become A Member of Salad with a Side of Fries

Jenn’s Free Menu Plan

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GUEST RESOURCES

Dr. Kathy Campbell's Website

Dr. Kathy Campbell's Instagram

GUEST BIO

Dr. Kathy M. Campbell, the driving force behind DrKathy Health, LLC, has been a clinical community pharmacist in Oklahoma for over 30 years. Her popular TEDx University of Tulsa talk, “Obesity: The Modern Famine,” highlights her innovative approach to community health, where she combines medical insight with her personal journey with obesity.

Harnessing a profound love for applied science and an empathetic

approach, Dr. Kathy has made it her mission to address patient challenges innovatively, often realizing that pivotal solutions stem from meaningful conversations. An advocate for proactive health, her expertise lies in melding the intricacies of food and stress biochemistry with traditional pharmacy. Her journey of personal health, managing obesity from a young age and losing 150 pounds, fuels her understanding and passion for proactive health management.

A proud alumna of the University of Oklahoma, Dr. Kathy boasts a bachelor of science in both zoology and pharmacy and later completed her doctorate of pharmacy in 2005. Moreover, her innovative streak in the pharmacy profession has positioned her as a go-to consultant for industry giants like Designs for Health and InBody.

A lifelong resident of Tulsa, OK, Dr. Kathy cherishes her 25-year bond with her supportive husband, Royce Campbell. Together, they nurture three young adults—Emma and her husband Bradly, and their youngest, Abby.

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Salad With a Side of Fries Nutrition, Wellness & Weight Loss
What to eat and when to cheat! Let's decipher between all the “diets” out there. You know what to do but it itsn't working. In fact, your diet could be making you fatter.

Ever wondered if cryo-freezing your fat cells would really work? Should you try acupuncture? A hypnotist? If you do, how do you know if someone’s good?

Salad with a Side of Fries is the podcast that will answer all these questions and more! Talking wellness and weight loss for real life, because most of us are going to drink, eat out, skip the grocery store and who wants a life without fries or dessert?! Host Jenn Trepeck’s expertise as an optimal health coach, in practice for over a decade, along with experts in various modalities will clear up the myths, mis-information, bad science and marketing to reveal the truth of HOW TO EAT and HOW TO CHEAT!*



*These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This podcast, its content and guests are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.

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Jennifer Trepeck

“My passion for nutrition and helping others stems from “kicking my food issues” with my own weight management saga.” ~ Jenn

I believe that the greatest accountability is paying it forward! That’s why I teach the nutrition education we are all supposed to know but no one ever taught us, along with the science behind food, fitness, and health.

After I graduated from the University of Michigan Ross School of Business, I founded Better Life Now LLC while working full-time in hedge funds. In 2019, I took my practice from side-hustle to full-time self-employment and launched my podcast, Salad With a Side of Fries. On the show, we offer science-based tips and tricks for how to achieve wellness and weight loss for real life – because who wants a life without fries or dessert?!

Topics we tackle on the podcast include debunking fad diets, food myths, misinformation in marketing, bad science, and general nutrition. I encourage guests whose expertise is different from my own focus on weight management to bring their unique, fact-based perspectives to talk about subjects they are educated in and passionate about.

Due to my decade-long experience of working with clients, I have gained insight into the health and food industry and the how-tos of building a business.

Some specific health and wellness topics I can speak to include debunking fad diets, exposing the BS we are fed by the food and diet industry, how the people around us can positively and negatively impact our health journey, and shifting mindsets in order to overcome inappropriate barometers of success to instead achieve happy, healthy, and meaningful change.

On the subject of business, I can help you by teaching my critical pieces every entrepreneur should know, how to make your side-hustle into your full-time job, ways to sustainably achieve success without burning out, contemporary networking, and how to prioritize wellness while pursuing your projects.

When I find some free time, I’m typically working out at Physique57, discovering hidden gem restaurants in NYC, or traveling to spend time with friends and family.

I’d love to have an in-depth conversation with you, whether it’s leveling up in business or debunking food myths!